Submitted by Naomi (8/9/2004)

[20:42] *carmen* do you mind me asking what you need it for ?
[20:43] *Naomi* I am transsexual
[20:43] *Naomi* it's a birth defect
[20:44] *Naomi* where the brain develops as one gender, but the body as another
[20:44] *Naomi* it's no fun
[20:44] *carmen* so what are the symptoms .. what do you feel like.. i guess?
[20:44] *Naomi* well imagine this
[20:44] *Naomi* you wake up tomorow
[20:44] *Naomi* you're still you
[20:44] *Naomi* but your body is a man's body
[20:45] *Naomi* wouldn't it suck?
[20:45] *carmen* are you serious
[20:45] *Naomi* well, it's how we're born
[20:45] *carmen* how does that happen
[20:45] *Naomi* it doesn't happen overnight
[20:45] *Naomi* the body doesn't change over
[20:45] *carmen* and alot of your friends are this way too?
[20:45] *Naomi* it starts out screwed up
[20:45] *Jenny* if you dont mind me asking... what physical sex are you naomi?
[20:45] *Naomi* yeah... see, 99.9% of transsexuals are raised as the wrong gender
[20:46] *Naomi* for example, I was raised as male
[20:46] *Naomi* my parents had no way of knowing
[20:46] *carmen* do you have girl parts or guy parts
[20:46] *Naomi* at the moment, a little of each
[20:46] *Naomi* till I have a certain surgery
[20:46] *lilo* my tummy hurts :(
[20:46] *Naomi* it's no fun, but we all must face adversity
[20:47] *Naomi* anyway, to remedy all this, we take hormones
[20:47] *carmen* so this is common where you are from you said
[20:47] *Naomi* I know other people with the same problem because we set up support groups
[20:47] *Naomi* most of them I know online
[20:47] *carmen* o i c
[20:47] *Naomi* it's somewhere around 1 per several thousand
[20:47] *Naomi* there are so many studies it's hard to knopw
[20:47] *Naomi* there are so many studies it's hard to know
[20:48] *carmen* wow... so do you look like a girl or guy
[20:48] *Naomi* so we begin hormone therapy

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[20:48] *carmen* sorry if im getting too personal
[20:48] *Naomi* well feliciaa, these are indeed personal questions
[20:48] *lilo* anyone from wi?
[20:48] *Naomi* but I am a transsexual rights advocate (many people think it's a mental illness or a crime against god, etc)
[20:49] *carmen* yea i guess... but you dont seem to minhd
[20:49] *carmen* mind
[20:49] *Naomi* and if I can educate you then it's worth any potential emberassment
[20:49] *carmen* no OHIO
[20:49] *Naomi* my job in life is to help those like me, as I was lucky enough to overcome it
[20:49] *carmen* yes i see
[20:49] *Naomi* many people discriminate against us
[20:49] *Naomi* far worse than against the gays or the blacks or anything else
[20:50] *Naomi* I myself am a lesbian
[20:50] *carmen* but its not your fault
[20:50] *Naomi* correct
[20:50] *Naomi* it's not
[20:50] *carmen* if you are born that waty
[20:50] *Naomi* but you know how bigots are
[20:50] *Naomi* well you see, many people think it's a choice
[20:50] *carmen* yea..
[20:50] *Naomi* that I could simply choose to live as a male and be happy
[20:50] *carmen* right
[20:50] *Naomi* and yes, I could certainly choose to live as a male
[20:51] *Naomi* but psychologically and mentally I'd still be a female
[20:51] *Naomi* and I'd never be truly happy
[20:51] *carmen* when did you discover this.. when you were litltle?
[20:51] *Naomi* I was 3 years old when I first told my mom that I wanted to be a girl
[20:51] *carmen* how did you know you were not really a guy
[20:51] *Naomi* how did you yourself know that you were a girl?
[20:52] *carmen* so you are a guy physically but not mentally
[20:52] *Naomi* was it just that you had female genitalia?
[20:52] *carmen* right
[20:52] *Naomi* or that your parents treated you as a girl?
[20:52] *Naomi* or was it deeper?
[20:52] *Naomi* are you a girl only because people call you she?
[20:52] *carmen* but see i was kind of a tomboy as a kid b/c of my brothers
[20:52] *Naomi* or because you call yourself she?
[20:52] *carmen* well both.... but i feel like a girl
[20:52] *Naomi* exactly
[20:52] *Naomi* your core being is female
[20:53] *Naomi* as is mine
[20:53] *Naomi* http://www.tssupport.org/library.php
[20:53] *Naomi* take a look at that site
[20:53] *Naomi* it's one I run
[20:53] *carmen* and so is yours but you look like a guy
[20:53] *Naomi* no, I look 100% female
[20:53] *carmen* i cant click on it
[20:53] *Naomi* nobody ever thinks I'm male
[20:53] *Naomi* my name is legally Naomi
[20:53] *Naomi* I have long hair, breasts
[20:53] *carmen* but you were born with a penis?
[20:53] *Naomi* sadly, yes I was
[20:54] *Naomi* though that can be remedied with surget
[20:54] *Naomi* though that can be remedied with surgery
[20:54] *Naomi* in 1% of children born, the child is neither male nor female physically, but a mix
[20:54] *carmen* ok so you look and feel like a girl but yopu have guy parts.. and now boobs
[20:54] * Breezay hugs naomi
[20:54] *Naomi* as in, a penis and a vagina together, or something similar
[20:54] *Naomi* awwww :P
[20:54] * Naomi hugs back
[20:55] *carmen* mmmm... ok
[20:55] *Naomi* feliciaa: yes
[20:55] *carmen* how do you give hugs
[20:55] *Cally* hi all
[20:55] *Jenny* this is gonna sound kinda silly, but i didnt really get it at first but thanks Naomi. I get it now.. i appreciate you willing to tell us this.
[20:55] *Naomi* not all TS's look as good as I do
[20:55] *Jenny* hiya caldwell
[20:55] *Naomi* some are 'read' easily
[20:55] *Naomi* and literally laughed at on the streets
[20:55] *Cally* what are yall talking about?
[20:55] *Naomi* even though it's just another birth defect
[20:55] *Naomi* transsexuality :)
[20:55] *carmen* thanks for sharing naomi
[20:56] *Cally* oh my
[20:56] *Naomi* I'm glad I've educated the two of you
[20:56] *carmen* quite educational
[20:56] *Naomi* with your permission, I'd like to put a log of this conversation on my website
[20:56] *Naomi* maybe it could educate others
[20:56] *carmen* sure
[20:56] *Naomi* I will replace your names with pseudonyms (sp?)
[20:56] *carmen* ok
[20:57] *Naomi* thanks :)
[20:57] *Naomi* I really appreciate that
[20:57] *Jenny* that'd be great Naomi
[20:57] * feliciaa hugs naomi
[20:57] *carmen* oh cool
[20:57] * Naomi hugs feliciaa back :)
[20:57] *Naomi* btw
[20:57] *carmen* haha
[20:57] *Naomi* my site: http://www.tssupport.org
[20:57] *carmen* i will check it out
[20:57] *Naomi* just type it in in another window
[20:57] *Jenny* i cant believe people treat you like that.... even when i didnt understand it properly, i would never do that!
[20:57] *carmen* is your pic on there
[20:58] *Naomi* click the 'to the library' link
[20:58] *Naomi* breezay: bigots are bigots
[20:58] *Naomi* I can't hate them
[20:58] *Naomi* they are only echoing what they are taught
[20:58] *Naomi* instead, I must try to educated
[20:58] *Naomi* instead, I must try to educate
[20:58] *carmen* they dont know any better....
[20:58] *carmen* ignorant
[20:58] *Naomi* exactly
[20:59] *Jenny* i dunno, i just dont understand why people are like that without a decent reason to be like it
[20:59] *Naomi* well
[20:59] *Naomi* the crime against god reason
[20:59] *Naomi* the idea that it's 'unnatural'
[20:59] *Jenny* i have never been like that to anyone... my mum has brought me up right i guess
[20:59] *Naomi* and the idea that it's just like a fetish
[21:00] *carmen* thats rediculous
[21:00] *Naomi* many believe that transsexuals do it for sexual thrills
[21:00] *Naomi* because there are most certainly perverts like that out there
[21:00] *carmen* why would you want to be that way............it has to be born in you
[21:00] *carmen* yea true
[21:00] *Naomi* another sad thing... many TS's are extremely tall
[21:00] *Jenny* really?
[21:00] *Naomi* there aren't many 6'4 women around
[21:00] *Naomi* remember, physically male
[21:01] *Naomi* I myself am 5'1... too short!
[21:01] *carmen* me too
[21:01] *Naomi* so it's often easy to single transsexuals out
[21:01] *carmen* 5;1
[21:01] *Jenny* i bet being tall has its pro's though
[21:01] *Naomi* true
[21:01] *Jenny* i'm 5'5"
[21:01] *Naomi* but it also invites discrimination
[21:01] *Naomi* many men have square jaws
[21:01] *Naomi* transsexual women look like men sometimes because of that
[21:02] *carmen* naomi where is your pic on the site
[21:02] *Naomi* I have friends who are literally laughed at by teenage girls on the street
[21:02] *carmen* yes but some women have sqaure jaws too
[21:02] *Naomi* they're followed around and laughed at
[21:02] *Jenny* :O
[21:02] *carmen* thats not niced
[21:02] *Naomi* I know... it's dreadful
[21:03] *carmen* im on your site

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[21:04] *Jenny* i am so shocked at how people are treated
[21:04] *Naomi* people have been murdered
[21:04] *Naomi* tortured
[21:04] *Naomi* raped
[21:04] *Naomi* et cetera
[21:04] *Naomi* all because of this
[21:04] *Naomi* MANY people
[21:04] *Jenny* it is disgusting
[21:05] *Naomi* that's exactly what they say, Breezay
[21:05] *Naomi* :P
[21:05] *Jenny* it makes me ashamed to be part of this world
[21:05] *Naomi* me too
[21:05] *carmen* thats so sad..
[21:05] *Naomi* but I know my duty
[21:05] *Jenny* i mean, what have people become?!
[21:05] *carmen* its a disaster............
[21:06] *carmen* theres no love
[21:06] *Naomi* they're called christians :P
[21:06] *Naomi* :P
[21:06] *carmen* what about christians
[21:06] *Naomi* I'm kidding
[21:06] *Jenny* Naomi, I am so proud of you for wanting to educate people instead of turning your back on them.
[21:06] *carmen* yea it must be hard
[21:07] *Naomi* often times conservative christians are the worst bigots on this issue
[21:07] *Naomi* thoug there are others too
[21:07] *Naomi* well
[21:07] *Naomi* I personally was lucky
[21:07] *carmen* yea i know what you mean.. quick to judge
[21:07] *Naomi* I had no issues with being a laughingstock (I was one in highschool, but nevermind that)
[21:07] *carmen* are you originally from the states?
[21:07] *Naomi* as of day one I was suddenly being hit on by many men
[21:08] *Naomi* and was rejecting them as rudely as I know how, as is my custom :P
[21:08] *carmen* yea....
[21:08] *Naomi* heheheh
[21:08] *Naomi* many people are rejected by their families
[21:08] *carmen* so are you attracted to men or women?
[21:08] *Naomi* I am a lesbian
[21:08] *carmen* oh ok
[21:09] *Naomi* there are also straight transsexuals and bisexual transsexuals
[21:09] *carmen* was your family supportive?
[21:09] *Naomi* and transsexual sexual predators, for that matter
[21:09] *Naomi* not all transsexuals are morally good
[21:09] *Naomi* well''Submitted by Naomi (8/9/2004):
[21:09] *Naomi* my family is currently planning my 21st birthday party
[21:09] *carmen* thats nice
[21:09] *Naomi* one of my aunts, during the planning, said 'so what does he want?' referring to me
[21:10] *Naomi* my grandfather scolded her
[21:10] *Naomi* and said "she, and Naomi. that's who she is now"
[21:10] *carmen* yea... does that hurt you?
[21:10] *Naomi* that is an extremely accepting family
[21:10] *Naomi* I was VERY lucky in that respect
[21:10] *carmen* ye
[21:10] *carmen* yea
[21:10] *Naomi* it only hurts if they don't TRY to refer to me properly
[21:10] *Naomi* it's not an easy thing to change
[21:10] *carmen* right....
[21:10] *Naomi* AT ALL 

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